Everyone knows that talented, young software engineers are getting
handed bags of money these days. But older tech workers are also finding
it easier to get hired in the Valley.
Source: CNET
Former ProMatch member Suzie Wong (right) gets a
hug congratulating her for her new job as a contract sourcer/recruiter
at Google.
(Credit:
Daniel Terdiman/CNET)
SUNNYVALE, Calif.--It's nearly 10 a.m. in the City Council chambers here, and 43 people are waiting for their turn to speak.
These are not citizens with civic matters on their minds; divided into two lines that stretch out from either side of the podium in the center of the room, these veterans of Google, Cisco, NASA, Hewlett-Packard, Yahoo, Microsoft, Boeing, Sun, and others, are here looking for a new lease on their professional lives.
One by one, they lean into the microphone to introduce themselves. They mention where they've worked in the past, list their skills, and then talk about the type of job they're looking for, and which they hope the other people packing the chambers might be able to help them find.
Welcome to the Sunnyvale chapter of ProMatch, "an interactive career resource center for professionals who are seeking work in Silicon Valley." Each Thursday, more than 200 members of the organization pack this room for a morning of career education and networking, and the strength and support that comes from being around job seekers with similar backgrounds and skills.
These are not citizens with civic matters on their minds; divided into two lines that stretch out from either side of the podium in the center of the room, these veterans of Google, Cisco, NASA, Hewlett-Packard, Yahoo, Microsoft, Boeing, Sun, and others, are here looking for a new lease on their professional lives.
One by one, they lean into the microphone to introduce themselves. They mention where they've worked in the past, list their skills, and then talk about the type of job they're looking for, and which they hope the other people packing the chambers might be able to help them find.
Welcome to the Sunnyvale chapter of ProMatch, "an interactive career resource center for professionals who are seeking work in Silicon Valley." Each Thursday, more than 200 members of the organization pack this room for a morning of career education and networking, and the strength and support that comes from being around job seekers with similar backgrounds and skills.
New ProMatch members line up to introduce
themselves and their professional skills. They all hope the organization
will help them find a new job.
(Credit:
Daniel Terdiman/CNET)
As has been well chronicled, the market for tech talent in Silicon
Valley has not been this hot in years. Tech workers there pulled down an
average $104,000 salary last year, up 5.2 percent from 2010, and
software engineers did even better, bringing in $116,000 in 2011, up 10
percent from a year earlier, according to Dice.com. On average, Dice
listed 7,000 available software engineer positions on any given day last
month, up 17 percent from a year ago. And a November survey by Nova
Workforce Development found that 77 percent of employers in the Valley
"reported at least some difficulty in finding and hiring qualified
[tech] employees."
But while everyone knows the market for highly skilled young tech
workers is booming like never before, and that companies are struggling
to find top engineering talent, there's a perception that things are not
nearly as rosy for tech workers whose 30s are behind them. Take this January article
in The Bay Citizen. Headlined "Old Techies Never Die," the story's
subhead sums up its damning conclusion: "They just can't get hired after
40 in Silicon Valley."
Or take this exchange during a recent panel discussion hosted by CNET on "Startup Funding: Strategies and Opportunities."
Asked whether they would fund entrepreneurs older than 45, the
uncomfortable body language of the three venture capitalists on the
panel--Naval Ravikant of AngelList, Dave McClure of 500 Startups, and
George Zachary of Charles River Ventures--spoke volumes. Eventually,
after Ravikant and McClure (himself older than 45) muttered half-hearted
jokes, the best they could come up with was this milquetoast response
from Zachary: "Yeah, assuming they're active and they have a lot of
energy to put into a startup."
Nationally, unemployment is at 8.7 percent, according to the Bureau of
Labor Statistics. In California's San Mateo County, the heart of Silicon
Valley, things are definitely better, with unemployment at 7.3 percent,
though in Santa Clara County, also part of the Valley, it's currently
8.8 percent.
But given perceptions like that of the Bay Citizen article and the VCs
on CNET's panel, one might think that the mood in the standing-room-only
Sunnyvale City Council chambers for a recent ProMatch Thursday meeting
would be grim. You could count the number of 20-somethings on one hand.
The vast majority there had already celebrated their 40th birthday, and
many had had their 50th or even 60th. Yet grim would hardly be the word
that anyone attending this meeting could leave with. "Upbeat,"
"supportive," and even "successful" would be more accurate.
It's all about talent
Although the VCs who spoke on CNET's panel may have wished they hadn't been asked about investing in companies with founders older than 45, others say age--whether in regards to hiring or funding--isn't really an issue in Silicon Valley.
Although the VCs who spoke on CNET's panel may have wished they hadn't been asked about investing in companies with founders older than 45, others say age--whether in regards to hiring or funding--isn't really an issue in Silicon Valley.
For example, while the average age of founders admitted to the
hit startup incubator Y Combinator is in the mid-20s, that doesn't
exclude those past their 30s. "We don't have any feelings about founders
in their 40s per se," said Y Combinator founder Paul Graham. "We just
fund the companies we think are most likely to succeed."
And Stewart Alsop, a partner with Alsop Louie Partners, a VC firm in San
Francisco said that "We do it [fund founders in their 40s or 50s] all
the time. We like youth or experience. We tend to avoid what's in
between."
Plus, said Alice Hill, the managing director at Dice.com, many startups
are bringing in older workers as advisers or senior executives --
frequently at the behest of boards of directors that want to balance the
vision of young, energetic founders with real industry experience. If
someone is a talented software engineer, no one cares how old they are.
"If you're a software engineer, you can be any age," said Hill. "It's
all about whether you can write code."
'You're hired!'
No one is arguing, of course, that tech chops alone guarantee a new gig. Clearly, people's results will vary depending on their skill levels, personal networks, and preparation for the job hunt.
No one is arguing, of course, that tech chops alone guarantee a new gig. Clearly, people's results will vary depending on their skill levels, personal networks, and preparation for the job hunt.
Sometimes, though, workers in flourishing fields just need a
crash course in competing for employment in 2012. For someone who has
been in a rich, secure position for many years, being forced to look
again can be a daunting process. They may have forgotten how to
interview or know little about navigating crucial tools like LinkedIn
and even Facebook.
But spend a few minutes at a ProMatch meeting and you see much of that
fear dissipate. The organization is set up specifically to help educate
members through those fears with well-oiled, member-facilitated
workshops on key job-hunting skills, like networking, social media,
interviewing, and many others.
There's also plenty of encouragement. When new members introduce
themselves, or existing members make requests for connections to
companies where they're interested in working, the capacity crowd
constantly breaks out in applause for the speakers. "Hi, I'm Bob...from
the Interview team," one man begins, and the whole crowd shouts in
unison, "You're hired!"
'We hear success stories every week'
"It's like a pep rally," said Carolyn Warren, who recently got a job at a risk analyst at LinkedIn in part because of skills she learned through ProMatch. "They cheer you up. Looking for a job can be draining. And nobody wants to hire a mopey Molly."
"It's like a pep rally," said Carolyn Warren, who recently got a job at a risk analyst at LinkedIn in part because of skills she learned through ProMatch. "They cheer you up. Looking for a job can be draining. And nobody wants to hire a mopey Molly."
At this ProMatch chapter, membership -- which is free and
available to any U.S. citizen -- is capped at 215 -- the number of seats
in the Sunnyvale City Council chambers. That's so every member has a
seat at each meeting. As recently as last summer, that meant there was a
five-month waiting list to join. But now, with the job market in
Silicon Valley at full boil, there's no wait at all, said Connie Buck,
the ProMatch facilitator who manages the local chapter.
It's not that no one is losing their job in the Valley, of
course. Brock said that there are as many as 35 new people showing up
for new member orientation every three weeks. But spaces in the program
are opening up, she explained, because "the job market's getting better.
We hear success stories every single week."
One of those success stories is Suzie Wong, who recently landed a
job as a contract sourcer/recruiter at Google. Having worked at
Hewlett-Packard for more than 15 years as an Internet marketing program
manager, Wong needed help finding a new direction. "ProMatch helped me
by allowing me to keep up my presentation skills and fine-tune my
networking skills, which is truly the key way to find out where the
openings were."
Perhaps even more important, Wong said, she found out about the Google
position through a ProMatch alum. "I would never have found these
openings without having been at ProMatch," she said.
That's a
key element of the program. Many former ProMatch members return to help
recruit on behalf of new employers, and at the weekly meetings, anyone
interested in those positions holds up a business card in order to be
properly connected to the person with the job lead. And that's exactly
what Wong was doing at a recent meeting -- encouraging people to come to
Google, as well as helping out the Networking team by leading a
workshop on improving LinkedIn and social media skills.
Listening to stories at ProMatch and elsewhere, it's clear the
opportunities are out there, but no one's getting a new job unless they
can impress a hiring manager, and convince potential co-workers they'll
be a good addition to an existing team. Startups are the new lifeblood
of Silicon Valley, and many are dominated by the young. In places like
that, it may be hard for older applicants to find common ground--which
may help reinforce the perception that those 40 and older can't find
work.
But given today's shortage of top-tier engineers, talent is the
most valuable currency of all, and those who can do a good job of
presenting in-demand skills are getting hired, sometimes specifically
because of their years in the field.
That was the experience of Larry Edelstein, a senior software engineer at Klout.
After leaving a three-year position at Salesforce.com last summer, the
46-year-old Edelstein's search for a new position took just six weeks.
During that time he interviewed at five different companies and ended up
with two serious possibilities.
And rather than his age being an impediment, Edelstein said some hiring
managers essentially told him they appreciated not having to waste time
asking a lot of the questions they do of younger recruits because they
recognized the breadth of his experience doing general software
development and the fact that he'd know how to navigate through
situations younger engineers might not be familiar with. "They said,
'You've been around for a while, that'll be an asset for us.'"
Source: CNET


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